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Ok, it’s been a while since my last post. Many things have come to pass. For starters, our rock n’ roll lifestyle got us ejected from our first shop in February, that was fun. It took quite some time to move, but, the new shop is tight.
Chris is still in Nepal. Max has spent most of this year in Seattle seeking fame, fortune, adventure or just something that isn’t Missoula. That leaves me in the shop busting ass to fill orders and get ready for MisCon. To Max’s credit, he still shows up at least once a month to help out for a few days. Even then, what was once a four week maximum wait for a blade has become a minimum. Orders have been consistent enough for me to start full time shop work soon though. Which should lower the wait time considerably.
I have a shit ton more posts planned. There is the better late than never review of Roger Ma’s newish book The Zombie Combat Manual, a mini “Made in Montana” documentary about ZT filmed by some local college folks, and a couple more pics like the one up above. Which is a grand tale of some neighbors of the old shop donating the remains of an elk carcass for us to cut to shit last fall. There was some video, but while we were sober enough to cut an elk carcass to bits, we weren’t quite able to use a focus wheel. It was bad. Trust me.
I believe that is my “Holy shit! This bitch just cut through three big mother fucking elk ribs” look.
Posted by Joey on May 18 2010 |
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On 5-18-10, Wesley said....
thank god joey, GZFA was worried bout you guys! glad things are getting back on track, only wish you had called us to come help you move shop! hope to see you soon.
Wes
thank god joey, GZFA was worried bout you guys! glad things are getting back on track, only wish you had called us to come help you move shop! hope to see you soon.
Wes
On 5-18-10, Mac said....
yeah GZFA is glad to at least know your still at it.
yeah GZFA is glad to at least know your still at it.
On 6-03-10, Mike said....
Finally got Annex Z done and posted to our not-so-secret spot on the website. You're the stars of page 8.
http://www.okeechobeeeoc.com/AnnexZ.htm
Finally got Annex Z done and posted to our not-so-secret spot on the website. You're the stars of page 8.
http://www.okeechobeeeoc.com/AnnexZ.htm
On 6-04-10, Trystaan said....
ok ladies and gents lets see who's who in this zombie world. Scenario: the zombies are taking over and you are scavenging for food and u come across a group of survivors. Normally this would be a good thing but they are all children to weak to fight what do you do?
ok ladies and gents lets see who's who in this zombie world. Scenario: the zombies are taking over and you are scavenging for food and u come across a group of survivors. Normally this would be a good thing but they are all children to weak to fight what do you do?
On 6-04-10, Pedro said....
Glad to hear something new from you guys.
Now to Trystaan, my long term zombie plan is to take all found survivors and boat them down to the most southern island in Chile. Clear the islands and start a new civilization. Then when you have enough people you start making strong holds on the main land and start working your way north. Chile is a good place to start for small populated islands to the main land that bottle necks the zombies between the pacific and the Andes.
This is only my long term plan. I have dozens of short term plans for every type of zombie (fast/slow, undead/infected).
Glad to hear something new from you guys.
Now to Trystaan, my long term zombie plan is to take all found survivors and boat them down to the most southern island in Chile. Clear the islands and start a new civilization. Then when you have enough people you start making strong holds on the main land and start working your way north. Chile is a good place to start for small populated islands to the main land that bottle necks the zombies between the pacific and the Andes.
This is only my long term plan. I have dozens of short term plans for every type of zombie (fast/slow, undead/infected).
On 6-04-10, Trystaan said....
yeah but don't you think i would be unwise to carry all that baggage around with you. i mean i would give you a whole new set of circumstances where your life WILL BE PUT AT RISK because of all the "dead" weight that you would be forced to drag along with you. I would leave them there. But i never thought about Chile, that is brilliant!!! i always thought going into the mountains of upstate new york or Canada would be the best plan because i figured if they were fast zombies the cold, snow, and ice would slow them down plus icy conditions make it near impossible for normal people to climb let alone a zombie. please give me some more scenarios
yeah but don't you think i would be unwise to carry all that baggage around with you. i mean i would give you a whole new set of circumstances where your life WILL BE PUT AT RISK because of all the "dead" weight that you would be forced to drag along with you. I would leave them there. But i never thought about Chile, that is brilliant!!! i always thought going into the mountains of upstate new york or Canada would be the best plan because i figured if they were fast zombies the cold, snow, and ice would slow them down plus icy conditions make it near impossible for normal people to climb let alone a zombie. please give me some more scenarios
On 6-04-10, Pedro said....
When in the zombie apocalypse you really have to consider who you are (friendly or hostile). The survivors you encounter are going to be P friendly and P hostile. Children might be dead weight at first, but when they get older they'll be strong allies. It depends on how old the children are, but I think more kids then adults will survive the initial outbreak do to bigger imagination to except the situation and better hiding abilities. Once at the island the children can be in charger of cooking, farming, making, weapons, and taking care of the younger children.
Assuring the survival of the next generation is key to rebuild.
When in the zombie apocalypse you really have to consider who you are (friendly or hostile). The survivors you encounter are going to be P friendly and P hostile. Children might be dead weight at first, but when they get older they'll be strong allies. It depends on how old the children are, but I think more kids then adults will survive the initial outbreak do to bigger imagination to except the situation and better hiding abilities. Once at the island the children can be in charger of cooking, farming, making, weapons, and taking care of the younger children.
Assuring the survival of the next generation is key to rebuild.
On 6-07-10, Benjamin said....
I have a feeling cold will only stop them for so long. Think about it, the only reason you slow down in cold is because you body temperature is dropping a little, not because your muscles are freezing. Until they are actually frozen, they wont feel the cold (hypothetically speaking) so they will keep coming fast.
I have a feeling cold will only stop them for so long. Think about it, the only reason you slow down in cold is because you body temperature is dropping a little, not because your muscles are freezing. Until they are actually frozen, they wont feel the cold (hypothetically speaking) so they will keep coming fast.
On 6-07-10, Pedro said....
thats why islands are the way to go. Start with small raids until the island is clear, then bring all the survivors there. Once you have enough people clear the next island then repeat. once you have an army start taking the main land. As long as zombies can't swim farmable island is better than cabin in frozen tundra (on mountain)
As for the children lets not forget the most important rule of all: don't be a hero! Well it should be: don't be a hero if it's going to get you killed. As long as you're not sticking your neck out to far for them.
Example: kids stuck up a tree with one zombie at the bottom = Save.
Kid stuck up a tree with 40 zombies at the bottom and more in the area = screwed.
thats why islands are the way to go. Start with small raids until the island is clear, then bring all the survivors there. Once you have enough people clear the next island then repeat. once you have an army start taking the main land. As long as zombies can't swim farmable island is better than cabin in frozen tundra (on mountain)
As for the children lets not forget the most important rule of all: don't be a hero! Well it should be: don't be a hero if it's going to get you killed. As long as you're not sticking your neck out to far for them.
Example: kids stuck up a tree with one zombie at the bottom = Save.
Kid stuck up a tree with 40 zombies at the bottom and more in the area = screwed.
On 6-07-10, Trystaan said....
My sentiments exactly Pedro. But the thing is would it be wise I'm just saying i wouldn't extra mouths to feed when food is already limited plus they cant carry there own weight. i wouldn't want to give them a false sense of security you know just shack them up with me in my shelter but then start running out of supplies twice as fast and it just goes up one time for every "dead" weight you tack on. i just don't think its a wise decision. the age group also is a factor. the children i was describing were ones that cannot defend themselves. they cannot shoot or carry weapons making them just another mouth to feed on limited food and supplies. why would you want to put yourselves at risk?
My sentiments exactly Pedro. But the thing is would it be wise I'm just saying i wouldn't extra mouths to feed when food is already limited plus they cant carry there own weight. i wouldn't want to give them a false sense of security you know just shack them up with me in my shelter but then start running out of supplies twice as fast and it just goes up one time for every "dead" weight you tack on. i just don't think its a wise decision. the age group also is a factor. the children i was describing were ones that cannot defend themselves. they cannot shoot or carry weapons making them just another mouth to feed on limited food and supplies. why would you want to put yourselves at risk?
On 6-07-10, Trystaan said....
And what of the elders? would u feel the same way if they were elderly?
And what of the elders? would u feel the same way if they were elderly?
On 6-07-10, Pedro said....
the elderly's shelf life has expired. unless they're a doctor or architect. The kids will help protect you when you get old and they're strong. you don't want too big of a generation gap. Plus your food supply wouldn't get too low if you have a safe island to farm. you're going to run out of food eventually, but if you have a couple loyal kids, they can help with the small things you can't be bothered with. So they'll earn their keep. Worst case scenario you use them as a distraction/bait while you get away. Children are like veal to zombies.
the elderly's shelf life has expired. unless they're a doctor or architect. The kids will help protect you when you get old and they're strong. you don't want too big of a generation gap. Plus your food supply wouldn't get too low if you have a safe island to farm. you're going to run out of food eventually, but if you have a couple loyal kids, they can help with the small things you can't be bothered with. So they'll earn their keep. Worst case scenario you use them as a distraction/bait while you get away. Children are like veal to zombies.
On 6-07-10, Pedro said....
so I just figured out great zombie armor. Paintball protection gear! check it out. light, breathable, designed to be worn 24hrs, covers much and can't be bitten threw. What do you think?
so I just figured out great zombie armor. Paintball protection gear! check it out. light, breathable, designed to be worn 24hrs, covers much and can't be bitten threw. What do you think?
On 6-07-10, Trystaan said....
Good thinking Pedro hadn't thought of that one yet. got to go a sporting goods store and check some out but for me its always been leather or a shark suit. both nothing can bite through guaranteed. Now as for weapons which do you prefer, A.Melee B.Guns C.gas powered?
Good thinking Pedro hadn't thought of that one yet. got to go a sporting goods store and check some out but for me its always been leather or a shark suit. both nothing can bite through guaranteed. Now as for weapons which do you prefer, A.Melee B.Guns C.gas powered?
On 6-07-10, Trystaan said....
Just looked at some paintball armor. its utterly useless. doesn't cover nearly enough you can't repair it if it gets damaged. but leather can not only be repaired but also has the advantage of being eaten in a pinch. its also easily harvested because there is going to be plenty of animal carcasses lying around anyway. so leather is the only way to go.
Just looked at some paintball armor. its utterly useless. doesn't cover nearly enough you can't repair it if it gets damaged. but leather can not only be repaired but also has the advantage of being eaten in a pinch. its also easily harvested because there is going to be plenty of animal carcasses lying around anyway. so leather is the only way to go.
On 6-07-10, Taryaan said....
Trystaan is right. Paintball is weak compared to the age old leather equation. Once the factories stop producing it, what happens when you need to replace it? Once you've found a refuge, you can raise cattle. Cattle will provide food in the form of milk. Horses may not provide milk, but you can ride a horse. And I don't care how fast the zombies are (28 days later, resident evil), no zombies are catching a running horse. And a horse can break a skull or spine with a kick. In addition, you can get leather from both. Guns, 22. caliber it the only way to go. All you have to do is pierce the skull and 22s will do it. As for melee . . . well, this forum is the holy grail for melee weapons. Don't take kids unless they can do something helpful (scavenging, keeping an out open) or the elderly (they really are just slow and pretty much useless, seeing as how the main purpose of keeping the elderly, in a practical sense, is to get some use from their knowledge. Unless they've been around zombies for years, they don't know shit and will only slow you down and, like useless kids, will eat all your food. Leave the kids and old people (a.k.a. baggage), take your 22. and your glorious melee weapon (Zombie Tools, or nothing at all, everything else breaks), a bicycle if you can find a good, tough one, and your food and water. Welcome to Zombie survival 101.
Trystaan is right. Paintball is weak compared to the age old leather equation. Once the factories stop producing it, what happens when you need to replace it? Once you've found a refuge, you can raise cattle. Cattle will provide food in the form of milk. Horses may not provide milk, but you can ride a horse. And I don't care how fast the zombies are (28 days later, resident evil), no zombies are catching a running horse. And a horse can break a skull or spine with a kick. In addition, you can get leather from both. Guns, 22. caliber it the only way to go. All you have to do is pierce the skull and 22s will do it. As for melee . . . well, this forum is the holy grail for melee weapons. Don't take kids unless they can do something helpful (scavenging, keeping an out open) or the elderly (they really are just slow and pretty much useless, seeing as how the main purpose of keeping the elderly, in a practical sense, is to get some use from their knowledge. Unless they've been around zombies for years, they don't know shit and will only slow you down and, like useless kids, will eat all your food. Leave the kids and old people (a.k.a. baggage), take your 22. and your glorious melee weapon (Zombie Tools, or nothing at all, everything else breaks), a bicycle if you can find a good, tough one, and your food and water. Welcome to Zombie survival 101.
On 6-07-10, Taryaan said....
Once you can't produce the paintball armor any more, you're screwed wearing that crap.
Once you can't produce the paintball armor any more, you're screwed wearing that crap.
On 6-07-10, Taryaan said....
Islands, good idea. Isolated, low density. That's good. But Trystaan's got some good ideas as well. The temperature, if below freezing, will freeze the zombies if they're undead. If they just infected but alive, it might still freeze them, but at the very least it will slow them down. And either way, I'd rather a slow zombie than a fast one. That way, it's easier to use my Tools on them.
Islands, good idea. Isolated, low density. That's good. But Trystaan's got some good ideas as well. The temperature, if below freezing, will freeze the zombies if they're undead. If they just infected but alive, it might still freeze them, but at the very least it will slow them down. And either way, I'd rather a slow zombie than a fast one. That way, it's easier to use my Tools on them.
On 6-07-10, Pedro said....
Melee I have my ruff-n-read ZT machete and an oyster chucker.
firearm I have a Sig P250 9mm. If your not familiar with this pistol it can be converted into 22, 9mm, 357 sig, 40 sw, and 45 acp. You need to have options (what ever ammo you can find).
22 is great on slow undead. Yeah huge ammo clip, no recoil, lots of accuracy a +.
If you have fast infected that can be killed without a head shot you're going to want more stopping power.
for rifles AK-47 is the most reliable and fires the most mass produced ammo.
for shotguns gotta be a 12 gauge (any hunting home will have plenty of shells for scavenging)
The armor, yeah leather is good, but better for after the initial outbreak once you have a system. The problem is unless you already have leather armor its hard to make. no time to make armor right in the middle of the outbreak.
The paintball gear is good for when you want to be light and fast. check out Dye core pads and the fanned helmets they have a website. Once you got your system down, you can make your leather armor based on the pads so it flexes and breaths right.
Melee I have my ruff-n-read ZT machete and an oyster chucker.
firearm I have a Sig P250 9mm. If your not familiar with this pistol it can be converted into 22, 9mm, 357 sig, 40 sw, and 45 acp. You need to have options (what ever ammo you can find).
22 is great on slow undead. Yeah huge ammo clip, no recoil, lots of accuracy a +.
If you have fast infected that can be killed without a head shot you're going to want more stopping power.
for rifles AK-47 is the most reliable and fires the most mass produced ammo.
for shotguns gotta be a 12 gauge (any hunting home will have plenty of shells for scavenging)
The armor, yeah leather is good, but better for after the initial outbreak once you have a system. The problem is unless you already have leather armor its hard to make. no time to make armor right in the middle of the outbreak.
The paintball gear is good for when you want to be light and fast. check out Dye core pads and the fanned helmets they have a website. Once you got your system down, you can make your leather armor based on the pads so it flexes and breaths right.
On 6-08-10, Pedro said....
What I wish I had thats missing from my gear is the ZT scarab!
What I wish I had thats missing from my gear is the ZT scarab!
On 6-09-10, Trystaan said....
leather armor is not hard to make. all you have to do is find boots, sofa's, or car seats and we both know there will be plenty of those items just lying around. scissors, and a needle to make leather armor.whereas you would need machines and a whole bunch of tempered plastic to make paintball armor. same goes with repairing said armor. that is what makes it superior to paintball armor.
leather armor is not hard to make. all you have to do is find boots, sofa's, or car seats and we both know there will be plenty of those items just lying around. scissors, and a needle to make leather armor.whereas you would need machines and a whole bunch of tempered plastic to make paintball armor. same goes with repairing said armor. that is what makes it superior to paintball armor.
On 6-09-10, Pedro said....
I'm waiting to hear what you think on my other statements.
As for the armor, The Paintball gear is not made of plastic. It's breathable, stretchable, and comfortable material thats padded. It doesn't cover everything and it's not good for the very long term. It's affordable and available. I haven't found any good leather armor other then biker jackets and pants and those are really expensive. Now if you already made yours then good on you for being prepared. If you don't I don't think you realize how long it takes to put something like that together. After you put it together you have to make sure all the stitching is REALLY good so it doesn't fall apart, it has to flex and bend, and it has to be comfortable enough to wear for days at a time. This all becomes harder with the thicker the leather the more the protection. If you are that good then start a business like Zombie tools and sell sell sell! I will be your first costumer and would request a leather manica.
I'm waiting to hear what you think on my other statements.
As for the armor, The Paintball gear is not made of plastic. It's breathable, stretchable, and comfortable material thats padded. It doesn't cover everything and it's not good for the very long term. It's affordable and available. I haven't found any good leather armor other then biker jackets and pants and those are really expensive. Now if you already made yours then good on you for being prepared. If you don't I don't think you realize how long it takes to put something like that together. After you put it together you have to make sure all the stitching is REALLY good so it doesn't fall apart, it has to flex and bend, and it has to be comfortable enough to wear for days at a time. This all becomes harder with the thicker the leather the more the protection. If you are that good then start a business like Zombie tools and sell sell sell! I will be your first costumer and would request a leather manica.
On 6-14-10, Tom said....
Kevlar is some awesome stuff. Each cop shop (police station if your not aware of the slang) has a dozen or more. Your gonna have them littering the streets after a while. Kevlar is durable and light but the regular Kevlar vests that the police use don't offer much protection; just the chest, no shoulder or arm protection.
Also, you don't want machine guns. I don't see why people go for these straight away. Their big, yes. Their powerful, yes. You think you can hold down the trigger of an M16 and hit a zombie in the head from a good 50+ meters with your gun continuesly bouncing up and down and wasting a horrible ammount of ammo?
I love Pedro's Sig P250 9mm - Exactly what you need. Rifle-wise, I love the Remington Model 700 Centerfire rifle. Any version you want; XCR, LV SF etc., whichever one you desire. It just differs by looks, mostly. The Remington Model 700 IS the most accurate gun in the world. It's bolt action, which makes it rather fast at firing. Add a scope and BAM - kickass.
Kevlar is some awesome stuff. Each cop shop (police station if your not aware of the slang) has a dozen or more. Your gonna have them littering the streets after a while. Kevlar is durable and light but the regular Kevlar vests that the police use don't offer much protection; just the chest, no shoulder or arm protection.
Also, you don't want machine guns. I don't see why people go for these straight away. Their big, yes. Their powerful, yes. You think you can hold down the trigger of an M16 and hit a zombie in the head from a good 50+ meters with your gun continuesly bouncing up and down and wasting a horrible ammount of ammo?
I love Pedro's Sig P250 9mm - Exactly what you need. Rifle-wise, I love the Remington Model 700 Centerfire rifle. Any version you want; XCR, LV SF etc., whichever one you desire. It just differs by looks, mostly. The Remington Model 700 IS the most accurate gun in the world. It's bolt action, which makes it rather fast at firing. Add a scope and BAM - kickass.
On 6-15-10, Pedro said....
Kevlar would be a little extreme for zombies you just need to be bite and scratch proof witch you could use cardboard for that (thanks max and Joey for that tip). Kevlar is going to be more useful for hostile survivors (I'm sad to even imagine the race wars that will ensue and with a name like Pedro in Seattle I might need that kevlar more then you do Tom lol) If it comes out for production before the outbreak there is a company that is making new body armor called dragon skin this shit can stop a grenade! Check it out (future weapons vid)
I suggested the AK-47 because of the mass produced 7.62 round it fires. (if you miss the head, but still hit, that zombie will be on it's ass) Also the AK-47 just turned 65 years old and has killed more people then AIDS. (Don't quote me on that.) Finally the AK can take more beating than any gun and still fire. (easy maintenance!) I understand if you don't want to use a communist weapon. There are better more modern weapons out there, but most are going to be pretty expensive.
Thanks for the comment on my Sig p250, I felt it would be the ultimate pistol for the aftermath. I like that Remington Model 700, good choice for stealth. Might want to make a silencer for it. (WARNING it would be illegal, so just learn how to make one for when the outbreak begins.)
Kevlar would be a little extreme for zombies you just need to be bite and scratch proof witch you could use cardboard for that (thanks max and Joey for that tip). Kevlar is going to be more useful for hostile survivors (I'm sad to even imagine the race wars that will ensue and with a name like Pedro in Seattle I might need that kevlar more then you do Tom lol) If it comes out for production before the outbreak there is a company that is making new body armor called dragon skin this shit can stop a grenade! Check it out (future weapons vid)
I suggested the AK-47 because of the mass produced 7.62 round it fires. (if you miss the head, but still hit, that zombie will be on it's ass) Also the AK-47 just turned 65 years old and has killed more people then AIDS. (Don't quote me on that.) Finally the AK can take more beating than any gun and still fire. (easy maintenance!) I understand if you don't want to use a communist weapon. There are better more modern weapons out there, but most are going to be pretty expensive.
Thanks for the comment on my Sig p250, I felt it would be the ultimate pistol for the aftermath. I like that Remington Model 700, good choice for stealth. Might want to make a silencer for it. (WARNING it would be illegal, so just learn how to make one for when the outbreak begins.)
On 6-16-10, Taryaan said....
The AK is indeed a formidable weapon. Lots of ammunition, good power, resilient. I agree that armor with hostile survivors in mind is a good idea. People will be crazy for supplies and will likely be shooting each other in no time. If everyone has an AK, no armor will keep you from being perforated. I do own leather armor, and it is breathable and light (I live in Florida, it's too hot for layers of ANYTHING) but tough enough to protects against teeth and broken jagged fingernails. I think most people will automatically think bigger is better and flock toward the larger caliber ammunition, the 45 and 40, most likely. I'd rather carry 1000 22 cal rounds than half as many 45 cal. But your customizable pistol sounds great. I don't personally have that kind of knowledge, but it is worth looking into. So, for me, it's light caliber weapons, a good ZT (or three), light leather armor (I'm not talking about biker leathers, although the jackets do make decent armor, I'm talking about real leather armor, which I do own) and a steady march South. While going to the frozen North could work in the extremely short term (the cold would slow down the zombies in the event of living zombies, and freeze the dead ones completely), growing food in snow is difficult from what I've heard. That's my plan. If I run out of ammo, well that's what the ZT are for.
The AK is indeed a formidable weapon. Lots of ammunition, good power, resilient. I agree that armor with hostile survivors in mind is a good idea. People will be crazy for supplies and will likely be shooting each other in no time. If everyone has an AK, no armor will keep you from being perforated. I do own leather armor, and it is breathable and light (I live in Florida, it's too hot for layers of ANYTHING) but tough enough to protects against teeth and broken jagged fingernails. I think most people will automatically think bigger is better and flock toward the larger caliber ammunition, the 45 and 40, most likely. I'd rather carry 1000 22 cal rounds than half as many 45 cal. But your customizable pistol sounds great. I don't personally have that kind of knowledge, but it is worth looking into. So, for me, it's light caliber weapons, a good ZT (or three), light leather armor (I'm not talking about biker leathers, although the jackets do make decent armor, I'm talking about real leather armor, which I do own) and a steady march South. While going to the frozen North could work in the extremely short term (the cold would slow down the zombies in the event of living zombies, and freeze the dead ones completely), growing food in snow is difficult from what I've heard. That's my plan. If I run out of ammo, well that's what the ZT are for.
On 6-16-10, SmokeEdge said....
zombie spit? what if there was a zombie that could launch a lungy at ya.He would'nt have to get close to infect,just hock up a lung at ya and bam your a zombie.Guns seem like the best choice,8 shot 12 guage 00 shots,can still bash heads while reloading.
zombie spit? what if there was a zombie that could launch a lungy at ya.He would'nt have to get close to infect,just hock up a lung at ya and bam your a zombie.Guns seem like the best choice,8 shot 12 guage 00 shots,can still bash heads while reloading.
On 6-16-10, SmokeEdge said....
OH SilencerCo,make some damn good silencers,check em out
OH SilencerCo,make some damn good silencers,check em out
On 6-16-10, Pedro said....
Check out that future weapons video on the dragon skin it can stop the AK-47 and more. (seriously guys check it out!) Good on you Taryaan for being prepared already. I would like to see what your armor looks like. To SmokeEdge and the spitting zombies, I will have to throw it back to one of my earlier points with the paintball gear. New paintball mask with a helmet should protect your face and eyes. A riot mask can be easily pulled off and fog up fast. Paintball mask are vented with fans for when you get fog and a good amount of open vision. (check out a Dye i4 mask) If you guys go back far enough in the news section you'll see that ZT made a scarab, thats what I would like in my gear bag. Also you guys might want to learn about past fire arms like muskets and blunderbuss for when ammo runs out you might have to make your own old style gun that can fire anything.
Check out that future weapons video on the dragon skin it can stop the AK-47 and more. (seriously guys check it out!) Good on you Taryaan for being prepared already. I would like to see what your armor looks like. To SmokeEdge and the spitting zombies, I will have to throw it back to one of my earlier points with the paintball gear. New paintball mask with a helmet should protect your face and eyes. A riot mask can be easily pulled off and fog up fast. Paintball mask are vented with fans for when you get fog and a good amount of open vision. (check out a Dye i4 mask) If you guys go back far enough in the news section you'll see that ZT made a scarab, thats what I would like in my gear bag. Also you guys might want to learn about past fire arms like muskets and blunderbuss for when ammo runs out you might have to make your own old style gun that can fire anything.
On 6-16-10, Taryaan said....
A quick question. How heavy is this dragon skin? It sounds great. But is it very heavy? If it's relatively light, then good job. If its heavy, then it's probably not the best for all the traveling I'm planning on doing. It's hard to describe my armor. It's like these leather arm guards for working in very hot areas (I kept them from when I worked in a crematory, a very hot environment!), heavy duty leather bracers like from a ren fair (I trust these things so much I would willingly stuff my forearm in a zombie's mouth, or a pit bull's for that matter). Custom built gloves, but my falconer gloves will serve me well in a melee combat situation if anything else. Tall, custom made tabi boots for maneuverability, protection and comfort. Leather chaps really, really work and they're super tough (unless they're biting your exposed buns, which would be really funny to run around in). I have an armor leather jacket, but I'm saving space there for ballistics protection (when we figure out what's best. I intend on being prepared when it happens. First I'll raid the grocery stores for food. I can live without bullets, but not without food. Then I'll trade food for bullets as I feel i need more and if there are any survivors I can help (if you guys swing my way, I'll hook you up with food, shelter, and any arms I can spare, you're good guys). I have dabbled in black powder guns. They are effective (assuming you don't burn your face off or blow up your gun. They are notoriously inaccurate and take forever to load, I wouldn't recommend them at all, save for a desperate, close range one shot). I can't see the practicality of a mask of any kind. If a zombie gets that close to your head you did something wrong and deserve your fate. I think it would just obstruct my vision and piss me off. I plan on being very aware and avoiding fights until I absolutely have to. After I'm comfortable in my new haven (hopefully with you guys!) then I'll go out and hunt the walking dead. After we wipe them off the map, I have every intention of mentioning how it wouldn't have been possible without my trusty ZT Zack Axe (the handle perfectly perfectly covers the main striking surface of my fists, perfect for nailing a zombie in their not so pearly whites).
A quick question. How heavy is this dragon skin? It sounds great. But is it very heavy? If it's relatively light, then good job. If its heavy, then it's probably not the best for all the traveling I'm planning on doing. It's hard to describe my armor. It's like these leather arm guards for working in very hot areas (I kept them from when I worked in a crematory, a very hot environment!), heavy duty leather bracers like from a ren fair (I trust these things so much I would willingly stuff my forearm in a zombie's mouth, or a pit bull's for that matter). Custom built gloves, but my falconer gloves will serve me well in a melee combat situation if anything else. Tall, custom made tabi boots for maneuverability, protection and comfort. Leather chaps really, really work and they're super tough (unless they're biting your exposed buns, which would be really funny to run around in). I have an armor leather jacket, but I'm saving space there for ballistics protection (when we figure out what's best. I intend on being prepared when it happens. First I'll raid the grocery stores for food. I can live without bullets, but not without food. Then I'll trade food for bullets as I feel i need more and if there are any survivors I can help (if you guys swing my way, I'll hook you up with food, shelter, and any arms I can spare, you're good guys). I have dabbled in black powder guns. They are effective (assuming you don't burn your face off or blow up your gun. They are notoriously inaccurate and take forever to load, I wouldn't recommend them at all, save for a desperate, close range one shot). I can't see the practicality of a mask of any kind. If a zombie gets that close to your head you did something wrong and deserve your fate. I think it would just obstruct my vision and piss me off. I plan on being very aware and avoiding fights until I absolutely have to. After I'm comfortable in my new haven (hopefully with you guys!) then I'll go out and hunt the walking dead. After we wipe them off the map, I have every intention of mentioning how it wouldn't have been possible without my trusty ZT Zack Axe (the handle perfectly perfectly covers the main striking surface of my fists, perfect for nailing a zombie in their not so pearly whites).
On 6-16-10, Trystaan said....
where are you going to find dragon skin anyways? they don't even manufacture it yet and it's for military use only.
where are you going to find dragon skin anyways? they don't even manufacture it yet and it's for military use only.
On 6-16-10, Pedro said....
I know about the dragon skin for military use only. It sucks. I brought it up to inform others about it and how it works. Good knowledge to have and the video is amazing showing how many shoots it can take. The black powder gun suggestion is for very desperate situations, and yes very dangerous, but being able to shoot rocks and broken glass make it a good side project when you get bored on your hunt and need to pass the time. the mask and goggle idea, yes you really should avoid all contact with zombies, but when clearing rooms in close quarters, zombies can creep up on you more easily. And if you want to use your ZT blade your going to have a LOT of splatter. If you drive your ZT hand axe into a zombies skull and zombie blood goes into your eyes or mouth, then tag your it. DO THE RIGHT THING AND LET YOUR CREW KNOW WHEN YOU'RE INFECTED, TAKE IT LIKE A MAN! So be sure to protect your eyes and mouth.
Your armor sounds good, I was thinking about making a leather and metal cestus like in assassins creed 2. (I have a nasty left hook) I already have sap gloves, but it's too much offense not enough defense.
I know about the dragon skin for military use only. It sucks. I brought it up to inform others about it and how it works. Good knowledge to have and the video is amazing showing how many shoots it can take. The black powder gun suggestion is for very desperate situations, and yes very dangerous, but being able to shoot rocks and broken glass make it a good side project when you get bored on your hunt and need to pass the time. the mask and goggle idea, yes you really should avoid all contact with zombies, but when clearing rooms in close quarters, zombies can creep up on you more easily. And if you want to use your ZT blade your going to have a LOT of splatter. If you drive your ZT hand axe into a zombies skull and zombie blood goes into your eyes or mouth, then tag your it. DO THE RIGHT THING AND LET YOUR CREW KNOW WHEN YOU'RE INFECTED, TAKE IT LIKE A MAN! So be sure to protect your eyes and mouth.
Your armor sounds good, I was thinking about making a leather and metal cestus like in assassins creed 2. (I have a nasty left hook) I already have sap gloves, but it's too much offense not enough defense.
On 6-25-10, barry99705 said....
The Dragonskin armour guys are under investigation at the moment. It works, once, then the plates provide no protection.
The Dragonskin armour guys are under investigation at the moment. It works, once, then the plates provide no protection.
On 6-29-10, Taryaan said....
Pedro is right, though. I really would take it like a man. If I got infected, no weepy good-byes, no trying to hide it or any of that bullshit. It does beg the question. Is it better to take a bullet right after infection, or to go out of a "blaze of glory", running into the mob and hacking down as many as possible before you turn? I'm a little more fond of the use it before it goes bad method. If I'm still kicking and I'm still me for a while, then by all means, use me while you can. If I can still fight or draw them away or sacrifice myself so my team can survive, then I'm useful. But if we're pretty safe and not looking forward to any zombie encounters for a while, then by all means, put me where we put our dead and shoot me. In the head, make sure I'm dead for good, then go on without me. As long as someone makes it, it's worth it.
Pedro, I'm thinking the best kind of gloves for that are falconry gauntlets. You buy them individually (because when working with hawks and whatnot you only really need one) but if you think any old glove will do it when I predatory bird is gripping your hand, you're wrong. These gauntlets are super thick and while it the talons still sting a bit from time to time, anything short of a sword is going to bounce right off. You sacrifice dexterity for protection, but if you're looking to knock out a zombie or two, by all means, this is the way. No fine manipulation (so no guns while wearing them) but you can definitely hold something big and mean looking (i.e. the Harvester). Adding metal will give you a big, mean, metal encrusted fist that will knock out any human, and if you're big enough, probably crush some zombie skulls.
Pedro is right, though. I really would take it like a man. If I got infected, no weepy good-byes, no trying to hide it or any of that bullshit. It does beg the question. Is it better to take a bullet right after infection, or to go out of a "blaze of glory", running into the mob and hacking down as many as possible before you turn? I'm a little more fond of the use it before it goes bad method. If I'm still kicking and I'm still me for a while, then by all means, use me while you can. If I can still fight or draw them away or sacrifice myself so my team can survive, then I'm useful. But if we're pretty safe and not looking forward to any zombie encounters for a while, then by all means, put me where we put our dead and shoot me. In the head, make sure I'm dead for good, then go on without me. As long as someone makes it, it's worth it.
Pedro, I'm thinking the best kind of gloves for that are falconry gauntlets. You buy them individually (because when working with hawks and whatnot you only really need one) but if you think any old glove will do it when I predatory bird is gripping your hand, you're wrong. These gauntlets are super thick and while it the talons still sting a bit from time to time, anything short of a sword is going to bounce right off. You sacrifice dexterity for protection, but if you're looking to knock out a zombie or two, by all means, this is the way. No fine manipulation (so no guns while wearing them) but you can definitely hold something big and mean looking (i.e. the Harvester). Adding metal will give you a big, mean, metal encrusted fist that will knock out any human, and if you're big enough, probably crush some zombie skulls.
On 7-12-10, Chicago Ted said....
my plan is to head south on a boat into the gulf of mexico heading for an oil platform, armor wise i have thick cuirboulli leather armor (it takes alot of worke to drive a nail throurugh it, nothing is going to bite through it.
my plan is to head south on a boat into the gulf of mexico heading for an oil platform, armor wise i have thick cuirboulli leather armor (it takes alot of worke to drive a nail throurugh it, nothing is going to bite through it.
On 7-30-10, Jordan said....
If i were to place an order for the reaper, the harvester, and two urban bone mark 3s (or two d'capitans) could you help me out with a discount or an added blade thats 1600 dollars worth of merchandise just right there and by the way the merchandise is pretty fuckin awesome
If i were to place an order for the reaper, the harvester, and two urban bone mark 3s (or two d'capitans) could you help me out with a discount or an added blade thats 1600 dollars worth of merchandise just right there and by the way the merchandise is pretty fuckin awesome
On 8-07-10, ZT said....
If you want to buy a pile of blades then of course we can work out a deal.. just talk to us via email.. contact@zombietools.net
on a side note we will hopefully have a forum up soon.
If you want to buy a pile of blades then of course we can work out a deal.. just talk to us via email.. contact@zombietools.net
on a side note we will hopefully have a forum up soon.
On 9-27-10, Johnny Mean said....
If you guys make it up to ZombieCon in Seattle and decide to hope over the border North into Vancouver, Canada to make a quick recon.
I will do my best to get down there myself.
Give me a buzz. I run a Zombie hand to hand CQC Course.
Now that I have found your site I will be recommending your tools as well.
Anyone else in the Pacific Northwest can email me as well zombieh2h@gmail.com
If you guys make it up to ZombieCon in Seattle and decide to hope over the border North into Vancouver, Canada to make a quick recon.
I will do my best to get down there myself.
Give me a buzz. I run a Zombie hand to hand CQC Course.
Now that I have found your site I will be recommending your tools as well.
Anyone else in the Pacific Northwest can email me as well zombieh2h@gmail.com
On 9-28-10, Taryaan said....
Well, times are a bit rough right now (I am actually miserable at being unemployed), so as soon as I make a few bucks, we'll probably try to get out of the heat (Miami) for a bit. For me, it's literally on the other side of the country, so I'll be glad to get out of this suffocating humidity. I'll figure out when ZombieCon is and make plans around that for myself and my love to get out there.
Well, times are a bit rough right now (I am actually miserable at being unemployed), so as soon as I make a few bucks, we'll probably try to get out of the heat (Miami) for a bit. For me, it's literally on the other side of the country, so I'll be glad to get out of this suffocating humidity. I'll figure out when ZombieCon is and make plans around that for myself and my love to get out there.
